Laid Back Boaters

Probable Cause = you fit the description of a suspect in a B&E at the local liquor store. Probably Cause is an easy one to get around, like it or not.

I'm thankful here in Kansas I don't have to deal with all of that. I have seen the Park Rangers twice, once was because I still had cf numbers, and he asked how long I'd had the boat in kansas, Then checked to make sure I knew that Kansas had just enacted the orange flag for skiier in the water, which didn't mater because I thought I needed it anyway. The second time he went by my boat slowly and read the numbers and then off about his own business to give someone a warning for not having the flag. The first time he was very pleasent as well, and not prickish at all. They're more concerned with the obvious people being stupid, and fishing licenses.

that's mostly because Kansas insn't nearly as broke as California. The more broke the State gets, the more the LE will be enforcing laws to bring in more income. The result will be safer roads and waterways which is just fine with me.

Lots of good reading. I am learing new things. On a boat that was built in 1980 will I need the sticker? Or will I have any problems ?

Doesn't matter when the boat was built. If the boat was LAST SOLD in California on or after May 1st, 2005, it will require a sticker.

Regarding probable cause and getting pulled over, last Saturday we had our annual Keaton Day. It coincided with a maximum enforcement day on the San Joaquin River, near Stockton and vicinity sloughs. Several boats were stopped going back to Buckley Cove and those Keatons look like such shady boats:). One boat skipper that was pulled over got interrogated by the Coast Guard for having several aliases and weapons violations? The boater was totally bewildered by this and after 15 minutes the Coast Guard backed off on the interrogation but issued him a ticket for not having a Type 4. It turned out that either the CF number was miscommunicated to a dispatcher or the dispatcher put the number in wrong or some other snafu on the part of the coast guard. This individual contacted the local Coast Guard office, later, and did receive an apology for the interrogation. Boating can be so much fun sometimes. I think I will put my CO stickers on my boat. I bought it after July 1, 2005 and don't want to give LE any more ammunition (figuratively speaking) than they already have.

Paul

Does anyone have a picture of this placard? I tried to find one on the internet, but couldn't. This seems so foolish to me. Why don't cars have co stickers on the trunk and dash? They would have a damned hard time telling some guy with a 1969 Yenco Camaro to put a sticker on his dash. I mean what if you were hanging on the back of a car skateboarding? You would be at prime risk for CO poising. An article I read said that this whole thing was really pushed hard because a couple boys died from swimming around under a houseboat that was poorly designed with the exhaust being put out under the boat instead off the back or up top. Seems the push should be for better design and people to not be stupid and suck exhaust fumes, but then again I'm logical and not one of the hundreds of thousands of uneducated boaters/car owners in the world.

I mean no one reads the side of a pack of cigarettes and says "holy crap these could kill me never mind I don't want to buy them any more" I'm sure there are some safety freaks out there in California, Florida etc that would like every shark and aligator to have warning stickers... While they're at it these damn rattle snakes her in Kansas need to be bright orange so that I can see them and not get too close. I don't think sharp knives should be sold either because what if someone made the mistake of trying to use it backwards and cut their hand? Forks should be banned as well they have sharp points and someone could stab themselves in the mouth and bleed out. Dogs can get rabies, so we had better get some stickers for them too. OH yeah didn't someone shoot a nail through a thumb here a little while ago? Better get rid of them they're too dangerous. Either that or every board should have a sticker saying "If you're using an air nailer keep your hands clear they're dangerous" Every wood product should have a splinter warning sticker.

I guess my point is that fate has been working hard to get all of these dangers here to weed out the weak, and then we go and screw up the effort with saftey devices and labels. If you're aware of the risks, and still smoke, power to you. If you own or opperate a motorized anything boat/car/atv and don't realize that sucking the exhaust fumes can kill you, well then as darwin said good ridance to bad rubbish (I paraphrase of course)

Just got off the phone with the Dmv All boats that are in Calif the sticker is Mandatory. Nice huh . The dmv said the fine not not having the sticker is you guys holding on!!!!! $150 to $225.00 When you get the stick on Cf numbers the stickers will come with them is what the dmv told me. Whats next a sticker on the back of your shirt when you fart that makes about as much sense as this new law

[quote="74konaproject"]Does anyone have a picture of this placard? quote]
I just got back from the Dmv and heres what they look like.

I fear for my life now that I have read that. I'm terrified that when I am riding my motorcycle I could get behind a car that creates this odorless colorless gas known as carbon monoxide. I think all cars should have these stickers they're dangerous you know... I think I had better get the govenator on the phone and let him know of this danger.

I've had my boat since 2000 and I know the stickers are not needed acording the law.
But I put them on anyway.
They were sent in the envelope along with my last 2 renewals and they don't take up any space one on the dash and one on the transom.
If it can keep the po po away just do it.

Don't forget that Dr's need to wear a hat with a sign saying "Warning I can cause permanent damage or death". Dr's kill more people every year than most anything else.
This is all part of the dumbing down of the people. Government thinks they need to hold our hands in everything we do....God forbid people take it upon themselves to find out and God forbid they take responsibility for themselves also.

Ok, I need to stop or I'm going to go all ballistic n sh*t

TOO LATE...

I agree completely. I have never been good at being the submissive type! In my Opinion, "Stupidity Should Be Painful" it would ever so satisfying whatching , really how many people would be in pain! LOL! SMac